Curse

belshazaarswrath · Jun 02, 2010, 07:56 PM // 19:56

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Originally Posted by JoeKnowMo

That guarantee doesn't apply to many players I know. You know who spends the majority of time staring at your character? YOU.

Again, like so many posts in here, this is all off-topic, and is a thinly-veiled attempt to un-ban botters.

I agree with you 70000% I know I certainly don't invest in fancy ass weapons in armor for OTHER PEOPLES ENVY since EVERYONE HAS EVERYTHING AND IT'S NICER THAN YOURS most of the time. I think most people are just trying to get nice shit so their character can be aesthetically pleasing and they can have more fun playing the damn game.

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Fact is GW will become a ghost town not because of the banned botters but because of anet's own stupidity

Stupidity? They've raked in a assload of everyones money and has a huge loyal fan base. If that's stupid I don't want to be smart (poor and hated).

JoeKnowMo · Jun 02, 2010, 08:18 PM // 20:18

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Originally Posted by belshazaarswrath

I think most people are just trying to get nice shit so their character can be aesthetically pleasing and they can have more fun playing the damn game.

I agree. The thing with MMOs is that others can affect prices as well as the commonality of items.

If you see an armor or item on many other players, that thing loses its aesthetic appeal. Heck, Monk FoW armor is just boring now.

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Anyway I can understand people being happy "justice" is served. But at the same time a lot of people seem reveling in it like a pig in shit. Which I find a little unnerving.

I am unnerved by the revelers. But I'm also bothered by those who are using twisted logic to defend their actions.

These people not only took up Anet resources because they had to be monitored and banned, but they're now taking up further resources by pursuing things with ANet. That results in diminished resources for the other players who aren't being a burden on the system. For a game with no monthly fee that sort of encumberance can become a problem for others too.

Reverend Dr · Jun 02, 2010, 08:22 PM // 20:22

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Originally Posted by belshazaarswrath

Stupidity! They've raked in a mediocre amounts of a small niche's money and have a small and diminishing fan base.

Fixed that for you.

You know that competitive gaming market? The one that thrives on RTS's and FPS's (there are quite a few of those games that have pulled in more money than GW has)? Well GW had the interest of many of those people, but on release day, day one, day motherRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing one, Anet decided to change a very base part of the game. They made players play through the storyline to unlock skills and items. Every beta prior to release, all players had all skills unlocked and were ready for play immediately. This change just shut that whole community out of the game.

belshazaarswrath · Jun 02, 2010, 08:39 PM // 20:39

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Originally Posted by JoeKnowMo

I agree. The thing with MMOs is that others can affect prices as well as the commonality of items.

If you see an armor or item on many other players, that thing loses its aesthetic appeal. Heck, Monk FoW armor is just boring now.

I am unnerved by the revelers. But I'm also bothered by those who are using twisted logic to defend their actions.

These people not only took up Anet resources because they had to be monitored and banned, but they're now taking up further resources by pursuing things with ANet. That results in diminished resources for the other players who aren't being a burden on the system. For a game with no monthly fee that sort of encumberance can become a problem for others too.

I agree. I'm not saying either side is looking like a winner now.

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Fixed that for you.

You know that competitive gaming market? The one that thrives on RTS's and FPS's (there are quite a few of those games that have pulled in more money than GW has)? Well GW had the interest of many of those people, but on release day, day one, day motherRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing one, Anet decided to change a very base part of the game. They made players play through the storyline to unlock skills and items. Every beta prior to release, all players had all skills unlocked and were ready for play immediately. This change just shut that whole community out of the game.

Lol they've sold 6mil+ copies and on top of that have sold all that extra stuff. Which ends up equating to a lot of money. I dont' give a shit if it didn't make as much as halo or wow it still made a decent amount of cash.

And as to the second thing. That seems more like a personal grudge against some shit that happened wai long ago. If you're so damned unhappy why don't you beat it? Go play all the more successful games that are apparently just waiting for you to play them. If you don't think the game has a loyal fanbase that enjoys the game how do you explain the massive butthurt and anger from all the people who got banned?

jbwarrior · Jun 03, 2010, 02:18 AM // 02:18

I ahve to say that the OP has wright GW is dead, and would never come back alive...maybe with GW2, but if that's gonna be the same with GW1... it will be dead within 2 years.......that's why i chose WoW.....never get bored overthere

Kumu Honua · Jun 03, 2010, 02:36 AM // 02:36

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Originally Posted by vamp08

I can guarantee the moment you would "work" for a BDS or tomentented weapon or whatever, and finally get it, the first thing you would do is Ctrl + click and wait for the "im jealous" comments so you can feel better that you spent the better part of your day aquiring nothing statistically better.

I don't ping my weapons.

When I got my Dryad bow, the only person I told was my friend and his response was "Awesome. Glad you finally got it."

After that, I only enjoy the effort it took to obtain, and respond to those who admire the weapon while I play JQ/FA.

Not everyone has an e-peen that requires constant stroking. Some of us actually enjoy obtaining things ourselves. I could have just bought one.

Lord Sojar · Jun 03, 2010, 04:13 AM // 04:13

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Originally Posted by jbwarrior

I ahve to say that the OP has wright GW is dead, and would never come back alive...maybe with GW2, but if that's gonna be the same with GW1... it will be dead within 2 years.......that's why i chose WoW.....never get bored overthere

Once again, hooray for comments not based on any fact whatsoever and pulled out of the air.

I can do this too!

HERE WE GO!

WoW is a dead game! I give it 1 month 18 hours and 6 minutes and it will be gone forever!

Aion is popular among people who like ham sandwiches, and people who like beef spare ribs don't like to play!

Crysis2 will run on a computer with an nVidia Geforce 5700 LE card at max graphics and 100 frames per second!

As absurd as these comments sound, that is how absurd saying GW1 is a dead game is... completely irrational and illogical. Please stop saying this random madness...

**cosyfiep** · Jun 03, 2010, 04:13 AM // 04:13

my first tormented weapon is a secondary focus I use for my ele---it rarely gets out....I am usually the only person to see it (sitting in my weapon slot or in my inventory). My 2nd one--a bow my MESMER uses will never get seen by anyone except possible my husband---I tend to run funny builds---the kind people tell you are NOT acceptable in THEIR group--and KICK!
I got these because I wanted them, not because I have the need to show them to others.
Epeen is NOT why I play, I play to have a good time, which is also why I run MY OWN BUILDS not the cookie cutter stuff that you 'must' do if you are such and such profession-----BORING!!!!

and as such I will still be playing guildwars until I have completed what I want to do (or if the shut the servers off before I make it there), so I dont see the ghost town as I really have little reason to go to most towns anyways. (though the dang lagg is still here...guess with less servers that is gonna happen too).

Reverend Dr · Jun 03, 2010, 04:48 AM // 04:48

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Originally Posted by belshazaarswrath

loyal fanbase . . . the people who got banned?

The loyal fanbase that bots at the game. Sure sounds like a winner to me!

The point of bringing up the loss of the competitive market, was that a simple change would have created a significantly larger audience and Anet just threw that away. That is a huge mistake no matter how you look at it.

The 6 mil figure is grossly inaccurate. As every copy is stand-alone they count each sale of factions, prophecies, and nightfall individually: divide that by 3 and you are far close to an accurate number of accounts.

fireflyry · Jun 03, 2010, 10:13 AM // 10:13

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Originally Posted by 00039

Fact is GW will become a ghost town not because of the banned botters but because of anet's own stupidity

That's ludicrous.

It's funny how so many are complaining of player number drops in a 5 year old non-subscription game.

The business model stipulates many of you will get bored and leave.If you can't appreciate the cyclic nature of video games fair enough but don't point the finger at the developer.

It's a genre wide issue.

Stoneys Rock · Jun 03, 2010, 11:04 AM // 11:04

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Originally Posted by jbwarrior

I ahve to say that the OP has wright GW is dead, and would never come back alive...maybe with GW2, but if that's gonna be the same with GW1... it will be dead within 2 years.......that's why i chose WoW.....never get bored overthere

EU English has been dead for a long long time. Thats why most EU English players latch onto the American districts. 7 Districts of Kamadan ftw.

some-_1 · Jun 03, 2010, 11:19 AM // 11:19

^ That. Pretty much everyone from all over the world will hang out in the US districts.

As most people have finished the game yea low end missions are deserted but high-end areas like DoA and Temple of the Ages (FoW/UW) are far from. No one hangs out in LA, Kaineng or Ascalon anymore because everyone sells their stuff in Kammadan. To people like us that have been playing for 2/3+ years it might seem a little dead but to someone who just started this game is going to seem very much alive.

If 3,700 accounts were half of the GWs populace then I doubt Anet would be putting so much effort into the game. I'd estimate that there are at least 50,000 - 100,000 people still active on GWs if not more and when you consider they’ve sold ~6 million copies that estimate might not be to far off.

zwei2stein · Jun 03, 2010, 12:49 PM // 12:49

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Originally Posted by belshazaarswrath

And as to the second thing. That seems more like a personal grudge against some shit that happened wai long ago. If you're so damned unhappy why don't you beat it? Go play all the more successful games that are apparently just waiting for you to play them. If you don't think the game has a loyal fanbase that enjoys the game how do you explain the massive butthurt and anger from all the people who got banned?

It seems you do not understand what happened. Also, seriously, trying to gtfo-qqer him? Whoa...

PvP got pretty much nutkick at begining of GW by not enabling UAS. That is universally agreed. And devs also agree on that: One of first thing we learned about GW2 is that PvP will indeed be UAS right from begining.

You must understand that this is something that trully hurt game: It limited potential PvP community to people who were willing to put up with completing PvE, farming XP for skill points (!) and gold to buy skills and for character respecs (!!). It had potential to have much better PvP community and to actually become esport...

It resulted in game changing to PvE based one, with playerbase that is now qqing about being banned for botting.

Femmefatal · Jun 03, 2010, 02:32 PM // 14:32

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Originally Posted by jbwarrior

I ahve to say that the OP has wright GW is dead, and would never come back alive...maybe with GW2, but if that's gonna be the same with GW1... it will be dead within 2 years.......that's why i chose WoW.....never get bored overthere

WOW is a childs toy of a game. They hold you by the hand and easily help you get your levels. There's nothing challenging about that game and it's a porcupine grind from the start to the finish. Only tinkerbells and goldilocks play WOW.

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No one hangs out in LA, Kaineng or Ascalon anymore because everyone sells their stuff in Kammadan

Well that's ^ wrong as there are plenty of sellers and buyers in LA and Kaineng and Balthazars Temple has a whole lot as well. It really depends on what you are selling/buying as to where to market them. Players needing Faction stuff tend to hang in Kaineng, players looking for old gold items of Prophecies or selling Prophecies greens or keys tend to hang out in LA. While Kamadan can be a catchall for most things it is not the sole marketplace by a long shot.
Also district 1 isn't the only place to buy goods either as several districts of each city can have vendors of items you won't even see in district 1's.

So to say "everyone sells their stuff in Kammadan is totally wrong".

Tullzinski · Jun 03, 2010, 02:58 PM // 14:58

This whole ghost town thing is funny. I have noticed an increase of people in the international dists, could be because of WIK or the bannings either way, I am seeing MORE people than normal.

nitetime · Jun 03, 2010, 03:29 PM // 15:29

^I agree^ Maybe a bit of both as I have recently returned just to check things out after Dhuums Day and now im even thinking about playing through the WiK content. Good times.

belshazaarswrath · Jun 03, 2010, 03:32 PM // 15:32

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

The loyal fanbase that bots at the game. Sure sounds like a winner to me!

The point of bringing up the loss of the competitive market, was that a simple change would have created a significantly larger audience and Anet just threw that away. That is a huge mistake no matter how you look at it.

The 6 mil figure is grossly inaccurate. As every copy is stand-alone they count each sale of factions, prophecies, and nightfall individually: divide that by 3 and you are far close to an accurate number of accounts.

Yea and they get paid for each sale of proph,factions, and nightfall individually...which is what matters when looking at getting paid.

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PvP got pretty much nutkick at begining of GW by not enabling UAS. That is universally agreed. And devs also agree on that: One of first thing we learned about GW2 is that PvP will indeed be UAS right from begining.

You must understand that this is something that trully hurt game: It limited potential PvP community to people who were willing to put up with completing PvE, farming XP for skill points (!) and gold to buy skills and for character respecs (!!). It had potential to have much better PvP community and to actually become esport...

It resulted in game changing to PvE based one, with playerbase that is now qqing about being banned for botting.

That might be the case but that's still that happened a long time ago and this game has evolved into a completely different one. And if it that much more of a focus on PvP I don't think the PvE would be as good...and that has been the most fun part of guild wars for me and I'm sure many others. Some people are more inclined to PvE and some are more inclined to PvP so anet made something that made PvE more prevalent.

So much change has happened since then I don't see why it's being brought up. Unless you're trying to introduce to PvE vs PvP argument into this one...

firadesunna · Jun 03, 2010, 03:39 PM // 15:39

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Originally Posted by Mitchel

So...you are blaming Anet that players bot? Wow.

yeah but it isnt only bots getting banned :/ ive been playing this game since just after release, braught every campaign within days of release and today I got perma banned for payment fraud? seriously? the money has come out of my bank account and I have no idea how to reverse charge before people come up with theories about that

also my friend got banned for botting when I know for a fact he wouldnt even have the brain cells to work out how to set it up

Femmefatal · Jun 03, 2010, 10:36 PM // 22:36

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Originally Posted by firadesunna

yeah but it isnt only bots getting banned :/ ive been playing this game since just after release, braught every campaign within days of release and today I got perma banned for payment fraud? seriously? the money has come out of my bank account and I have no idea how to reverse charge before people come up with theories about that

also my friend got banned for botting when I know for a fact he wouldnt even have the brain cells to work out how to set it up

Haha another one bites the dust. But in your case that payment fraud thing is a bug and you'll get your account reactivated provided you keep pestering them about it. But, yer friend haha he's out kaputchka. Doesn't matter if they have the brain cells to work out how to set it up when something is on his computer that says he can bot even if he hasn't botted, doesn't matter yer gone buddy. Bye Byeee waves!

SunfallE · Jun 03, 2010, 11:31 PM // 23:31

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Originally Posted by some-_1

To people like us that have been playing for 2/3+ years it might seem a little dead but to someone who just started this game is going to seem very much alive.

This.

I got the game back in October and the banning didn't affect much of the population at all where I play in PvE. I may not have been around for when there were a lot more players, but there are still plenty of people out playing the game. So it's definitely far from being dead.